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<h2>Stream: <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/index.html">project-error-handling</a></h2>
<h3>Topic: <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html">2020-09-28 Meeting Agenda</a></h3>

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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211037695" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211037695">(Sep 23 2020 at 17:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>Here is the hackmd for our meeting agenda, please feel free to edit it to add new discussion topics: <a href="https://hackmd.io/@rust-libs/HyIuBbKHP">https://hackmd.io/@rust-libs/HyIuBbKHP</a></p>
<p>I'd like to also keep meeting minutes so if anyone would be willing to volunteer for taking those notes please let me know.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211037950" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211037950">(Sep 23 2020 at 17:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll keep meeting minutes <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211498059" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211498059">(Sep 28 2020 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>reminder that our first meeting is in 3 hours and 45 minutes, if you have anything you'd like to discuss this is the thread to mention it in</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211500946" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> must-compute <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211500946">(Sep 28 2020 at 14:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thanks for the reminder. I'm wondering if anyone would be interested in discussing the <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/project-error-handling/blob/master/CHARTER.md#communicate-current-best-practices">Communicate current best practices</a> section of the charter document.</p>
<p>Specifically:</p>
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<li>Should communicating best practices (e.g. via an Error Book) be done after our main objectives are met? or should we create a tentative current best practices document that evolves as progress is made by the group? (e.g. "Until <code>Error</code> is merged into <code>core</code>, here are the best practices...")</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211501446" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> must-compute <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211501446">(Sep 28 2020 at 14:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>Perhaps I didn't search well enough but I couldn't find an official resource informing Rust newcomers about the state of error handling in Rust and current best practices, which is why I'm raising the point above for discussion.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211501536" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211501536">(Sep 28 2020 at 14:42)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211501810" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Poliorcetics <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211501810">(Sep 28 2020 at 14:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>While i'm not part of the group proper I'm very interested by a <code>Error book</code> as a user</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211504480" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211504480">(Sep 28 2020 at 15:03)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="307289">@Poliorcetics</span> you can join us if you like to <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211504700" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Poliorcetics <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211504700">(Sep 28 2020 at 15:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm reading the streams here but I don't make/contribute to big enough rust projects right now to have an informed POV I think. That may change if I manage to find an internship using Rust <span aria-label="fingers crossed" class="emoji emoji-1f91e" role="img" title="fingers crossed">:fingers_crossed:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211505276" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211505276">(Sep 28 2020 at 15:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Since this is our first meeting it would be nice if we could spend some time on: </p>
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<li>How users expect error handling to be</li>
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<p>As in, we take a leap into the future and assume all this was implemented into the language, then how it would potentially look <span aria-label="stuck out tongue" class="emoji emoji-1f61b" role="img" title="stuck out tongue">:stuck_out_tongue:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211523689" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211523689">(Sep 28 2020 at 17:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>30 minute warning</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211525669" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jubilee <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211525669">(Sep 28 2020 at 17:48)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="eyes" class="emoji emoji-1f440" role="img" title="eyes">:eyes:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211526282" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211526282">(Sep 28 2020 at 17:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>Is the meeting on this board?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211526309" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211526309">(Sep 28 2020 at 17:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>its in this stream, but I'll be making a new topic for it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211526440" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211526440">(Sep 28 2020 at 17:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>Jane, I'm new to this.  How do I get to the stream or is this considered the stream? :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211526518" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211526518">(Sep 28 2020 at 17:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>you are already on the stream <span aria-label="stuck out tongue" class="emoji emoji-1f61b" role="img" title="stuck out tongue">:stuck_out_tongue:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211526568" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211526568">(Sep 28 2020 at 17:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thank you <span aria-label="grinning" class="emoji emoji-1f600" role="img" title="grinning">:grinning:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211526986" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Lokathor <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211526986">(Sep 28 2020 at 17:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>In the web view, streams are the things on the left side with the colored <code>#</code> symbols. Topics are inside of streams, and they work basically like forum topics in most forums.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211527146" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oliver <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211527146">(Sep 28 2020 at 17:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>You can add hyperlinks to topic headings which I quite like when that's possible</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211527247" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211527247">(Sep 28 2020 at 18:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211527307" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211527307">(Sep 28 2020 at 18:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>All right, I'm here. We good to get started? (Never done a meeting just over text before) <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211527403" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> must-compute <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211527403">(Sep 28 2020 at 18:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>Meeting thread: <a href="#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.20-.202020-09-28">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/Meeting.20-.202020-09-28</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211527824" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211527824">(Sep 28 2020 at 18:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>How to add yourself in attendance?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211527882" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211527882">(Sep 28 2020 at 18:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>Go ahead and add a <span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span> emoji to Jane's Meeting Thread comment</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211527985" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Sean Chen (he/him) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211527985">(Sep 28 2020 at 18:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll just add you to the meeting minutes <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="344328">@Charles Ellis O'Riley Jr.</span> <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28%20Meeting%20Agenda/near/211528340" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Charles Ellis O&#x27;Riley Jr. <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/257204-project-error-handling/topic/2020-09-28.20Meeting.20Agenda.html#211528340">(Sep 28 2020 at 18:10)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span></p>



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